January 07, 2005

The Coon(m)enator Armstrong Williams...

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Back in November Noah posted an article that contained information about the Negro-Con Ward Connerly being paid more than one million dollars to do the bidding of white conservatives. Well, today we have more proof that Negro-Cons are nothing more than political whores and will do anything for the almighty dollar. USA Today is reporting that the closet homo-sexual and Negro-Con Armstrong Williams was paid $240,000 to promote Bush NCLB Act on his radio show and to interview Secretary of Education Rod Paige. This is clearly tax payers’ money being used illegally and some congress persons are calling for an investigation.

Armstrong admits that what he did was unethical but then tries to counter it with, “I wanted to do it because it is something I believe in”; while a little voice in his head was saying plus I got $240,000 to do it. Armstrong while being paid to sell us the NCLB Act, used his celebrity and relationship with other Black folk to get them to interview Rod Paige and discuss the NCLB Act. This Coon(m)entator is out of control and will do anything for a dollar. As stated before, if you want to see what is motivating the Negro-Cons, follow the money!!

25 Comments:

At 11:41 AM, Blogger Noah TA said...

One would have to be blind or purposely shutting their eyes not to see that this is a conspiracy by promotion. The ultimate goal of this conspiracy is to recruit black folks as proxy for the frontal attack upon collective black interest and the traditional “liberal” black leadership. By doing this, white conservatives can be defended from the claim of being motivated by racism, by having the attack have a black face also. It is not unlike the Americans in Iraq wanting to send Iraqis in to kill and fight other Iraqis, so that Americans aims will not be seen for what they truly are.

This is the oldest tactic in the book. Yet, for reason of greed and personal gain, these Negro-Cons eagerly and zealously take part in attacking the black masses on behalf of the last legal bastion of white supremacy….which is republican politics and policy. They realize that this is where the true power in America resides and that by doing their bidding; they will receive promotion and reward, which will separate them from the rest of black people….thus elevating their status.

Even though this is “News”….it really is not “News” for people with their eyes open.

 
At 11:57 AM, Blogger Scott said...

I wish we all were getting paid like that.

But being government (ie my) money it needs to be investigated. And they sure didn't get a good bang for thier buck.

 
At 12:10 PM, Blogger Noah TA said...

You ALL might not be getting paid like that....but it is the POSSIBILITY that drives many of you Negro-Cons. If Jesse Lee Peterson can reach fame and wealth, proped up by white conservatives, the future looks bright for sell outs and house negroes....HANG IN THERE SCOTT...Your reward is coming!

 
At 12:27 PM, Blogger Scott said...

Don't forget Sharpton got 87k to campaign for Kerry.

Everyone gets paid.

This situtation is only a problem because it looks like he was paid illegally with tax dollars.

 
At 12:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clearly, illegality would be a problem and is wrong.

BUT ... did you ever contemplate that some blacks act and vote as they do because they believe in what they are doing? Did you ever think that some blacks might truly belive differently than you do?

And personally, no matter what you think of their viewpoints, this has to be good for blacks overall. Any group that thinks and acts monolithically will ultimately be more likely to be ignored and shunted aside.

People having to battle for the votes of blacks, instead of taking them for granted, is a good thing!

Peg K

 
At 12:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. Am I the only one who finds the title of this post offensive?

Faheem - people died to fight those who called blacks "coons" and "niggers" and "boy."

How can you use this kind of language?

Peg K

 
At 1:01 PM, Blogger Faheem said...

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At 1:08 PM, Blogger Noah TA said...

The bottom line is that it is white folks paying black folks to forwards white folks agendas and candidacies. However, the market is saturated with black liberals. The supply exceeds the demand and hence black liberals are a dime a dozen. That is why black conservatives are now so coveted, because there is more market demand for black conservatives than there is for black liberals. When demand exceeds supply, then value is increased and hence the promotion or payout increases. In short, a black conservative has more market value than black liberals, in the white market of demand.

Peg K, yes I have. Many black conservatives truly believe that what they are doing, by promoting conservatism, will bring THEM benefit or has; regardless of its effect upon the black masses…they just know that it works for THEM.

The issue is not or should not be the distribution of black beliefs, but rather, the correctness and efficaciousness of the beliefs that black people hold. A 50/50 split between the wrong idea and the right idea is obviously less beneficial than a monolithic distribution of the correct or most efficacious idea.

What black people say between each other is NUNYA….in other words….NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

 
At 1:11 PM, Blogger Faheem said...

Peg, saying that monolithic thinking is some how wrong or will get Black men and women shunned is more propaganda from your side of the fence. The greatest gains accomplished by Black men and women in this country have come by way of us agreeing on those things, They have not come by way of a group of negro men and women taking on the thinking and ideology of those whom we opposed or was at the target of our protest (read: white folk).

Furthermore, no one died fighting to not be called a Nigger, Coon or any other disparaging remarks that white folk came up with. Black men and women died fighting for freedom, justice and equality, we have always known and still know that a Black man with a PHD is still a Nigger in the eyes of many white men and women. I can use this language to describe people like Armstrong Williams because he does nothing more that shuck and jive for white folk and is disconnected from the thinking of the Black collective, coincidentally much like you.

 
At 3:31 PM, Blogger shannon said...

While his dealings are unethical, and an example of what happens when you put private gain before the public good, did you really have to bring up his sexuality? In this case, it has nothing to do with his lack of morals.

 
At 3:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I knew when I saw this article this afternoon to check the blog spot because I knew my brother Faheem would eat this up.

RaAmen

 
At 3:53 PM, Blogger NmagiNATE said...

"Any group that thinks and acts monolithically will ultimately be more likely to be ignored and shunted aside." - Peg K
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PEG, did you actually think about this before it left your mouth?

Seriously, where is the logic in this?
And where do you get the notion that Blacks are monolithic? (what's clearly implied here)

The math definitely doesn't add up. You should just be honest and just chalk up the extent to which Blacks, etc. are ignored has everything to do with White Racism and White Agenda Setting in America.

Trying to fashion a rationale that side-steps that self-evident fact is futile. Stop making excuses for why this country doesn't and never has earnestly addressed issues of primary concern to African-Americans.

This is some bizarro sh*t if I've ever heard it. You're trying to tell us that a solid, unified consensus, voting bloc, etc. is somehow problematic in and of itself. This is the product of symptomatic thinking at best.

Truth be told, this is what you wished Blacks would do. Splinter off... If nothing else, as paternalistic and arrogant as you can be, your thinking says that you feel that more Blacks should think like you...(yes, that's what your statement amounts to) and say the things you agree with, etc.

But I guess Jews "monolithic" thinking with regards to the Holocaust and Israel (establishing it as a state) caused them to be ignored, huh?

Your statement simply has no basis and can't withstand any kind of test of it for the flawed theoretical thinking that it is. It really is a counterintuitive. But that's never stopped anyone like you. It doesn't have to make sense... I guess.

Go ahead... Come up with a list of "groups" who had to be diversified in thought (and action) in order to get attention and/or "respect" in the manner you suggest for Blacks. (I hope you actually apply/require this to others...)

And we won't even go there with you on this "The language is offensive" bahama drama...

 
At 4:31 PM, Blogger NmagiNATE said...

Scott, while I agree with you that "everybody is getting paid", I don't think Al Sharpton's campaign situation is comparable to Armstrong's. There's a different dynamic when you're a politician doing work for a fellow politician in a campaign for election. That's the nature of a campaign... to have people in your party get out and promote the lead candidate.

Armstrong's situation is different. There are no customary practices that support him taking money to promote the NCLB Act. Further, there is nothing that accounts for what he would need the money for, especially if he already believes in NCLB. He's already being paid do his show. That's his job. Not campaigning...

As far as Sharpton, I would assume what he was paid at least on-paper was suppose to go towards his campaigning (for Kerry) expenses. It seems a little disingenuous to make an issue out of that when I'm sure any number of politicians have been paid to support their party's nominee.

See Scott... this is another example of your weaselness. Eventhough you said it needs to be investigated you've sought to downplay this with your careless comparison and fallacious "everybody does it" reasoning.

NO! Every columnist doesn't do it. And that's what's relevant here. If Bill Clinton (when he was in office) was paying Michael Moore he would have been impeached, imappled, imoranged, and impared. lol

 
At 6:32 PM, Blogger Faheem said...

Shannon, understand this; my mentioning of his homo-sexuality was not a disparaging remark about homo-sexuals unless homo-sexuals do not want to be associated with Armstrong Williams. The mentioning of his homo-sexuality was about him being a closet homo-sexual and denying it. Just more signs of his self hatred. If you gay, say so!

 
At 9:06 PM, Blogger shannon said...

I agree that more people should say that they are gay, and not hide it, although homophobia may cause many to be silent. However, as a bisexual person, I would not like to be associated with Mr. Armstrong, I'm embarrassed enough as a black person. Even as a person who shares the same country, I am embarrassed.

 
At 10:04 PM, Blogger Constructive Feedback said...

(Most of you are full of Crap - and I didn't read a single post ahead of me to be able to say this with 110% confidence)

First Question for Black Progressives:

1) Is "No Child Left Behind" a "good' program that was simply UNDERFUNDED BY BUSH (and it was funded "in 10 years the public school system would be equal" - actual words said by Senator Ted Kennedy [the senator how has never met a Black man who he didn't think would starve if HE did not hand them a fish)

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Was it a flawed and failed program no matter what (be cause you are still mad at Bush from 2000)?

This is a critical question.

You see. This news about Armstrong Williams is simply a decoy put forth to have your KNEEgrow Democrat loyalist to move your minds off of REAL school reform and continue to go after Armstrong Williams.

Now if I recall correctly back in the year 2000 the NAACP, a 503c firm formed the "NAACP Voter Eduation Fund" in order for it to accept $9 million from the Democrat party (note [s] = strike out) [s]to get Black people to express their democratic right[/s] to round up the "kullords" to the polls get Al Gore elected.

You had Julian Bond and Kwasi Mfume who lead the NAACP also running this new organization.

If you are awake early on Saturday morning you can rise and see Julian Bond sitting right next to Armstrong Williams in the commentator chair on "America's Black Forum".

If this was a charge against Jesse "I'm A Constant To John Kerry To Get More Blacks Out To Vote" Jackson then the same type of "I knew he was a sellout and this just proves it." comments would not be made.

Why is it when Jesse is getting paid it's a "Brother's gotta do what a Brother's gotta do"? When Arstrong Williams (same genetic make up as Jesse) does the same thing at the fraction of the price that Jesse Charges there is a major show of levity among the Black Progressives?

Does a single additional Black kid get eduated as a result of this fight?

If you recall, in Africa one tribe was used against another tribe to capture slaves to ship to America.

Your forefathers were the "losing tribe", sent to America.

Imagine if as you are sitting at home in front of this computer your "enemy" arranges to kick in your front door and kidnap your azz to SLAVERY in Europe in 2005?

Does your home owner's insurance to repair the front door that was kicked in really matter now that you have been kidnaped wiht no rights?

IT IS TIME TO PUT DOWN THIS TYPE OF DIVIDE IN THE BLACK COMMUNTY.

 
At 11:54 PM, Blogger NmagiNATE said...

Renaldo,

That's one funny improv skit! lol
Oh and yes!! This is the Jesse Is Our Man Network! lol

You got jokes!!! Ha! Ha! Ha!

My Motto is:
Fuq a Democrat... and motherFuq a got-damn Republican!

Thank you for showing your bi-Poli syndrome.

 
At 6:23 AM, Blogger Noah TA said...

Its hard to attack a person with this binary political rhetoric when one has exercised their right to NOT VOTE due to consciences objection to the array of viable options. You can save all those democratic progressive finger pointing for those who actually vote democrat.

I really do not know the specifics of the No Child Left Behind (NCLB) program, to say that it is better or worse than what already exists. However, I truly do not believe that the goal of the elites are to better educate the masses. The reason being is that there is no market demand for a fully educated labor pool.

Let us not forget that there are many low wage jobs in the economy that do not require anything more than a high school diploma. Up to a third of all the jobs in the economy fit this criteria. In truth, only about 27% of the jobs offered in the economy today, requires a college education and in truth, one really does not need a college education to perform the work. Society simply feels that it needs to reward those who have matriculated successfully through college by making certain good paying jobs be restricted to those with college degrees. Much of what one will do in these position, the company will train you for.

There is a slight gap in what the education system is producing in terms of science and technology, hence, all the H1-B visas that bring over educated Asians to fill the Gap. However, for the most part, elite society thinks it is dangerous to order to have a fully educated and aware populous come to the realization that the system had been designed to produce failure to filter people willingly into the low end market demand. I say willingly because if a massive number of people with college degrees had to take these jobs, they would do with resentment and the feeling that society had cheated them and made a false promise, which would lead to revolt against the system..

NCLB, could be a good program….I do not know and I do not think that it matters if it is or not in THEORY. The reason being is that it will never be brought to fruition, through proper funding (just like the old system), because there is no economic market demand for having a highly educated populous.

 
At 7:16 AM, Blogger EG said...

There are several flaws with the NCLB Act. One is the funding issue mentioned earlier. Another issue is the required graduation rates that school systems must attain. Because the graduation rates are tied to high schools, many school systems are pushing students who are floundering onto the night school system, which is excluded from the NCLB legislation. The night school system has no mandatory attendance policy and the graduation rate of students under 21 has slipped to 25% since NCLB was enacted.

Also, since NCLB requires testing of math and reading skills, school systems have taken funds for music, art and other liberal arts classes to prop up the math and english classes.

We await the administration's response when a urban school system is declared completely dysfunctional and the students are forced into either charter schools or a voucher program. The NCLB Act will then be repealed because the federal government's unwillingness to spend the necessary money.

 
At 9:04 AM, Blogger Scott said...

From CB member

http://mhking.mu.nu/archives/062415.php

"Black conservatives like myself work day-in and day-out to promote solid and beneficial causes, which have included NCLB, but with one-fell-swoop, Williams has effectively torpedoed much of that work.

We constantly come under scrutiny by others from both sides of the aisle, from some conservatives who are wary of our presence, and by many liberals who insist that we are "on the take" or "reaching for scraps from 'Massa's' table." We constantly have to prove that we are not some sort of 'spook sitting by the door' when Armstrong comes along and not only accepts taxpayer money, but doesn't see anything truly wrong with it!

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My God! You mean to tell me that if you believe in something, no matter how illegal or wrong it may be, it's OK, because you believe in it!?

If Williams believed in NCLB so much, then he didn't need to be paid to tell folks about it in what was supposed to be a forum of his own opinion.


Well, I can tell you with complete certainty that the folks that I know and associate with on the right aren't paid by the Administration. On the contrary. If I were, I wouldn't be scraping to get by like everyone else.

Armstrong's entire message becomes suspect as far as I'm concerned, though. And as far as I'm concerned, he becomes "damaged goods" in terms of any sort of conservative black message."

 
At 9:34 AM, Blogger Noah TA said...

I just wonder why black conservatives do not CREATE their own platforms to PRESENT to the white conservative power base? What makes black conservatives illigit in my book is that they are simply FOLLOWERS. Thus, when one FOLLOWS the ideology of a club where many of the old southern white racist abdicated to...you have to question the wisdom of those blacks doing the following.

 
At 1:46 PM, Blogger NmagiNATE said...

Scott,

I can agree with what you've said about Armstrong but it did seem as if you already suggested that he didn't have much standing as it was any way in the Black CONservative "movement".

For the life of me, before this ever even came out, I would have never understood why he would have had any standing. He's a buffoon. That is the way he comes across... Completely UNPOLISHED. And, yes, I would say that about any "liberal" too.

He's only a step above Star Parker and Jesse Lee in my book. They are the Buffoon Elites of the Black CONservatives.

I can disagree with the Thomas Sowell's and even the Larry Elder's of the B-CON world but I can at least respect their ability to present their ideas in pseudo-intelligent or quasi-legitimate manners.

Yes!! You B-CON's better get some backbone and get rid of your dead Buffoon weight or those clowns will ruin the sh*t ya'll think your "movement" is about.

Where is the strong, respectable Black CONservative leadership?? lol

 
At 6:34 PM, Blogger Scott said...

What idea have black liberal added to the cause. Social secuirty designed for white people, unions designed by and run by white people (were racist until very recently), stopping direct discrimination both cons and liberals want that.

Intergration and flawed idea, wether it came from blacks or whites I am unsure. But it doesn't help the majority of blacks.

So as far as I know you got reparation. White white liberal like John Kerry are against.

Please show me the black ideas on the liberal side.

If you can I will accept your critism that blacks con aren't doing enough to set the conservative adgenda.

 
At 8:35 PM, Blogger Faheem said...

Hey Scott, I am going to pull one of your moves here and reference a website. You see, the Congressional Black Caucus is Black and Liberal plus they have an agenda. Not to mention the Agenda of the Urban League and NAACP. All of these organizations agenda different from that of white folk and white liberals because their agenda for the most part is dedicated to helping Black men and women.

Here are some of what the CBC had to say as far as agenda:

Ensuring Equity in the Education of our Children

Equal funding for every K?12 school in every state.

School modernization and infrastructure enhancement.

Improving Head Start, child nutrition, school lunch and after-school programs.

Providing expanded employment opportunities and experience for young Americans.

Preserving and improving our Historically Black Colleges and Universities.

Strengthening and Enforcing our Civil Rights Laws

Making Every Vote Count.

Ending Racial and Ethnic Profiling.

Criminal Justice and Juvenile Justice Reform.

Fair and Impartial Judges.

Preserving Affirmative Action.

Immigration Reform for the 21st Century.

 
At 8:53 PM, Blogger NmagiNATE said...

Let's see if Scott will furnish a B-Con Agenda that's explicitly or specifically dedicated to an African-American Agenda or one that deviates from the White CONservative norm.

That's all we've been ask for... for a long time.

And, SCOTT, you can stop choking on Reparations...
Because as far as has been demonstrated... that BS you're trying to suggest was exploded with the Native American BS tactic you tried to use.

Whenever you want to slip into that again... remember the keyword and determinant is EXCLUSIVE!!!

So, as far as we can see and know (of you)... YOU CAN'T SHOW ANY INTEGRITY on any issue. And we've already had you retracting this Right vs. Left BS before when I asked your scared ass the simple ass question as to where B-CON's where during the Civil Rights Movement.

There's nothing worst than a Hankerchief Head calling another Hankerchief Head... a Hankerchief Head.

As I said long ago... there is no functional difference between Black CON's and the Black "Liberal", traditional Civil Rights leadership they/you like to criticize. Crumb Snatchers by another name.

Both of you believe in the same fundamental principle. So spare us your Hankerchief In-Fighting.

 

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