December 31, 2004

numbers and logic

Are numbers and mathematics the language of truth? Can all of nature and existence, and its entire phenomenon's, be broken down to numbers? I believe that the answer to this question is yes; however, humans have not evolved and may never evolve to the point where we can decipher these truths. Only God knows the precise formulas, laws and calculations that create nature and existence as we know it. The reason why everything can be broken into numbers is that, based upon the current context of knowledge, the universe is broken into matter and energy. Matter and Energy was God building blocks and fuel source for the universe.

The failure of the ability to break phenomenon into numbers is not born from the phenomenon being an exception to natures rule, but rather, a failure of human knowledge and understanding. The absence of evidence of truth is not evidence of absence of truth. Before human knowledge base included the understanding of DNA and its sequences that are the templates of life, that absence of understanding did not mean the absence of DNA. Life and existence does not happen by magic, it is the resultant of the interactions of trillions of variables, predictably. However, if you do not know of or understand the variables, you cannot predict.

The reason something may sound logical is born from it reconciling in numbers behind the scene. That does not mean that we need to be able to consciously map the phenomenon to numbers, however. For example My father used to tell us a riddle than went like this: “A man left town on a horse to visit relatives far off. His travels took six days, leaving on Monday and returning on Monday”. Now, this riddle seems illogical because the numbers do not add up, because Monday to Monday is 7 days and he was apparently gone only six days. It sounds illogical on the surface. Other phenomenon sound illogical because of our intuitive understanding of physics, even though we cannot consciously calculate the variables.

In light of this, numbers and logic are the test of natures truths. Often times in human debate and opinion, there seems to be little means of discerning an objective truth. Thus, there is never any closer or acquiescing towards the truth, because individuals emotionally attached and invested in the truths antithesis will not accept it. Debate and argument is not generally done with the purpose of seeking knowledge and truth, but rather, for the joy and sport of debate. It is akin to hunting in America, given that people don’t usually hunt for survival and food, but rather because they enjoy the act.

When we hear debates regarding politics, there is never closure or acquiescence toward truth, because evaluating human nature on a collective scale is not an exact science. What I mean by that is that what maybe true for one person cannot be assumed to be true for another, because humans are not exact clones. Thus, when adopt a political ideology and social strategy, they are essential attempting to impose a solution that assumes that humans are clones, which is false, because it does not jive with the reality of the human numbers. American politics offers only two viable options, when many of the problems that exist are cured or treated from a large array of different strategies. Hence, when problems are never solved, the two competing ideologies blame the other, when the true problem is the stunted options the system provides.

The argument that is most illogical in America is the argument that arises from whites when dealing with the issue of race. The white argument is not supported at all by numbers and logic, hence, it has no anchor or foundation in truth. If one simply breaks down what has transpired over the last 300 years in America, in numbers and mathematics, the explanation of why blacks continue to lag social and economically in this nation stands clear. However, for those people who are the enemy of truth in regards to race, their emotional investment prevents them from accepting the logical. Instead, they choose to base their arguments on conjecture and fallacies.

If one understand some simple algebraic number laws regarding equality, the logical solution to black inequality would be clear. The algebraic number law of equality says that in order to maintain an equality, whatever is done on one side of the comparison must be done to the other side or inequality will be the resultant. Thus, if one starts with the assumptions that blacks are equal in capacities with whites, but there exist a current inequality of outcome for blacks, there can logically be only two reasons for this inequality. One, the assumption of blacks being equal in capacities of whites is false. Two, the treatment of blacks and whites in this nation has been unequal.

Most white folks today would lose total credibility if they denied the history on unequal treatment of blacks in this nation. Thus, they reluctantly acknowledge that history. However, the do not take the next logical step, which is to explain the cause of the current inequality to be this unequal historical treatment. Hence, by default, when one eliminates one option from a binary option, by default the other option picked. Therefore, when whites (or black conservatives) eliminate the history of racism from explaining the current inequalities, they are alluding that blacks are not equal in capacities to whites. In other words, they are alluding that blacks are inferior. Of course, in the current climate people do not come out and say this overtly, because the cloak will then be uncovered and their racism that they deny will be revealed. However, logically, they are clearing implying black inferiority.

In light of these logical truths, some may acquiesce and accept it as truth, but then say let us move past that cause and toward the solution. The fallacy with that line of thought is that they do not seek the logical solution, but rather the solution that will be most palatable to the white masses. The only solutions that most whites are willing to entertain are the solutions that cost whites the least. However, this restriction and constraint prevents the logical and most efficacious solution from manifesting. The logical solution, mathematically, flows from the algebraic law. If an inequality has be created from one side of the comparison being treated differently, the inequality can only be restored by going forward with inequality, but this time to the benefit of the other side.

Mathematically, an inequality can never be restored by treating each side equally. That will simply preserve the inequality infinitely. That is why the white conservative argument that you cannot fight discrimination with discrimination is illogical. Two wrongs does make a right when it produces equality as the resultant. To acknowledge that blacks have been discriminated against in the past is not enough. There needs to be an offset to the effects of this discrimination so that the inequality that resulted can be undone.

The Neo Racism of today is different from the racism of the past in that the focus is not on creating the inequality, but rather, on preserving the inequality created from the past. Thus, the strategy is to deny the logical solution to black inequality. Hence, thus the politics of denial of any government program or policy that disproportionately are seen to go to the benefit of blacks. That strategy and goal is cloaked today via the Trojan horse called “conservatism”. The truth is in the numbers.

By the way, in my fathers riddle, the HORSE was named MONDAY.




16 Comments:

At 11:45 AM, Blogger Noah TA said...

I think that we can never let this nation “write off” the debt it owes to black citizens, no mater how many years pass. We should be like the nagging bill collector that calls all times of the day and night, looking for what they are owed. Even if the probability is low, we must continue to let it be known that we will never roll over and simply forget. At the very least, we can taint their victory and status with the evidence of unfair competition and empirical evidence of their practice of “seesaw economics” which lifts one group up by placing the weight of oppression upon other groups. We should continue to expose them as hypocrites to the world, as the attempt to play the moral superior entities in this world. The practice that they now attempt to condemn and punish other nations and people for, they themselves are guilt of, without redemption. If nothing else from the reparations movement, it will expose them for the thief’s and exploiters that they are, while at the same time freeing the black worlds masses from the propaganda of personal responsibility for its poverty and failure and placing the blame where it logically belongs.

 
At 3:59 PM, Blogger Scott said...

What I have said in the past on reparations. I think it will make my stand very clear.

http://blacksforbush.blogspot.com/2004/10/understanding-institutional.html

Understanding Institutional Racism

"In the end only reparations will balance the scales. But when these reparations come they have to be in the right form, some have imagined affirmative action being a form or reparations, it isn't. In time we will have reparations for black Americans, but it important that when the time comes they come in the right form, that gives wealth to individual families for what they have lost by being black, and not some socialist trap like public housing that will make things worse."

http://blacksforbush.blogspot.com/2004/09/slavery-is-not-dead-my-reparation.html

Slavery is not dead : My Reparation Check

Anyway about reparations, $40,000 in todays dollar was the cost of a slave in 1850. Assuming modest 10% interest rate over 154 years the compunded value of each slave is $183,012,873,563. So each family just needs to calculate how many family members were slaves, multiply that number by 183 billion. They then calculate how many living decendants of those slaves exist and divide their billions between then.

 
At 4:02 PM, Blogger Scott said...

What reparations need to be paid to the American Indians for their genocide and taking of their land ? I don't know I have never thought about it have you. I know I have some American Indian in my family so I should get that check to.

 
At 4:47 PM, Blogger Noah TA said...

Scott, you being pro reparations is not logical with your teaming up with the conservative ideology. On one hand, you say that government giving transfer payments promotes laziness, paraphrasing you. Yet, you say you are for the biggest transfer payment of all….reparations. Your position is so contradictory that it is nonsensical. You are an enigma.

 
At 9:39 AM, Blogger Scott said...

So I guess Faheem was making a mockery of it when he said the same thing. In his post.

"Black People" and Reparation Checks

http://blackintrospection.blogspot.com/2004/08/black-people-and-reparation-checks.html

 
At 4:39 PM, Blogger Scott said...

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At 4:41 PM, Blogger Scott said...

There was no sarcasm but you seemed perfectly willing to ingore the holocaust of American Indians who were also my ancetors.

Where do you stand on that ?

 
At 6:55 PM, Blogger Scott said...

So were is your resume. Where you you blog. I know nothing about you except the crap you spew on this blog.

Which is more noise than signal.

 
At 6:56 PM, Blogger Scott said...

And I ask again, what reparation do the American Indians deserve. And do you support them in getting them.

 
At 5:35 AM, Blogger Scott said...

The point is the idea of reparations are a complex one. One faced with the complexity of getting justice for native americans you little mind retreated into well that is off topic.

Its not off topic, if you are demanding justice for past wrongs then all past wrongs are up to debate. You read the little story about indian reparations, do you think those are adequate, would you be so happy if blacks got so little. Don't forget many thought affirmative actions was a form of reparations, you and I obviously don't think that is the case.

But lets talk justice. Every piece of land that Americans live on was stolen by white man. How do you get justice for that. Now lets talk details about reparations for black people. What would you consider just reparations. How would african Americans even agree on what reparations should be. If all blacks in american voted and the majority decided that formal appology and $10,000 per decendant was acceptable would you stop demanding reparations. I don't think so because you know that is only a fraction of the debt that is owed. But I may be wrong.

 
At 4:24 PM, Blogger Scott said...

You didn't answer the main question. Which was what woulds be JUST reparations of blacks.

Also I can't tell did you think the Native American reparations what just ?

 
At 5:36 AM, Blogger Scott said...

"Emphatically, NO! I don't think the reparations/restitution for Native Americans was/is just. Who the f*ck would? (Asinine, stupid azz question).

What's just for African-Americans?
The very self-same model for what the Natives have and should get.

Any questions???"

YES ...

Are you mental, how can you say that American Indian reparations are inadequate and then say blacks should get the same thing. Are you paying attention ?

 
At 6:13 AM, Blogger Noah TA said...

Nmaginate can defend himself, Scott, as you have learned. However, my interpretation of his statement is that restitution to the Native Americans falls short of what it should have been or should be. When he says that reparations and restitution of African Americans should be the same as the Indians, it is based upon what the Native Americans SHOULD receive…..not what the HAVE received. That was fairly obvious, in the context of knowing Nmaginates stand on black peoples. It seems like you are just trying to obfuscate.

 
At 7:24 AM, Blogger Scott said...

That makes sence. What they should get but since he never said what they should get it still leaves the question unanswered since he refuses to define the should get part. Which is what I have been asking again and again.

 
At 11:14 AM, Blogger Noah TA said...

Nmaginate, go check out this cats Blog at http://tswe.blogspot.com/. There he has a recent essay entitled “Two wrongs don’t make a right”. The essay is a TOTAL contradiction to his supposed support of reparations. If you ask any white person who will be wronged by reparations, rightly or wrongly they will tell you whites will be. They are the majority and their tax dollars will be redistributed to service the debt.

Scott, what is your purpose? What do you stand for? Where is the principle, consistency and integrity of your beliefs….if you have such foundation? You are a charlatan. You are doing a Kerry Flip Flop. You actually voted against reparations before you voted for it…LOL.

 
At 12:23 PM, Blogger Scott said...

" numbers and logic" is the title of this post/thread. I ask what numbers for black reparations ?

I have not recieved an answer.

You might think you have a well thought out stance on reparations for African Americans but from what you have expressed in this tread you don't.

So why don't you pretend you were starting from ground zero and had to explain exactly what white america has to do to make thing right with black america. I have assumed that your stance was like faheems and wanted a check. If you agree with him then how much should the check be, who should the check go to. If not a check explain in a general way what you want to balance the scales for 4 years of white oppresion.

Because up to now you have not expressed what you want. And if you cant' ask for what you want you will never get it.

 

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