March 01, 2005

Hating America may not be so bad after all....

In trying to understand the rationale behind how the President and his minions can conclude that spending billions of dollars a month to secure freedom for Iraqi’s while cutting well over 150 social programs here in the U.S. is the right thing to do, I fixated on the language used in the rationale. The one thing the capitalist racist imperialist seek to do is maintain the order under which they attain their wealth while looking for means to attain more wealth. It is often said that a free Iraq is good for a free America and this rationale also gives support to the Idea that those who attacks and attacked America attack America because of its freedoms. You see there is no difference between the use of the word free in the phrase “a free America” and the use of the word freedom in the phrase “they attack America because of our freedoms”.

A free America means that America is free to do as it pleases as a Capitalist Imperialist and Racist nation and to attack America because of these things is an attack on the Freedom of/in America. Thus Freedom of/in America is defined by Capitalism Imperialism and Racism and an attack on any of these things or a discussion about any of these things being practiced and carried out by America is an Attack on “a free America and the Freedom of America to behave as it does in regards to these things.

This also explains why when discussing these things those on the right and a great majority of whites who benefit from these things say that we are bashing America, or that we hate America. Any opposition to Capitalism, Imperialism and Racism as practiced in America is an attack on Freedom and demonstrates that one hates America. How did this come to be? When did freedom in/of America and a Free America become synonymous with Imperialism, Capitalism and Racism?

In short, these things have always been the definition of the Freedom of/in America and a free America. A cursory glance at history proves this, but it is easily seen today during this war that the rationale behind and the relationship between these things is the determining factor in who is a friend of America and who is an enemy of America. As long as you are helping in America’s imperialist capitalist and Racist cause you are a friend regardless of your own transgression in your nation i.e. Saudi Arabia oppression of women, Current Oppression in China and various hoodlums in South America not to mention Saddams antics of old. The moment a nation or group of people speak out against American Imperialism, the exploitive nature of American capitalism and American Racism or attack a country that is a better friend of America's ambitions to carry out its Capatalist, Imperialist and Racist agenda they are forever banished into the Hating America Crowd because of its Freedoms. So I conclude Hating America may not be a bad thing after all.


At 5:37 PM, Blogger bombsoverbaghdad said...

I think white Americans HONESTLY believe that Al Queda and the Arab world (and the rest of the world for that matter) hate America because of our freedoms. I hear my co-workers say it all the time.

If you've never read it, you should read "A Peoples' History of the United States." It elucidates US history from the perspective of the black and the brown. It also talks about America's never-mentioned military efforts in the Phillipines, Libya, etc.

Freedom, American style, means the freedom to make money--pure and simple. White America knows this, but it will swear until it's blue in the face that it's not true. There is nothing we can do to combat this, for this image and thinking is forged into their thinking.

At 10:38 PM, Blogger NmagiNATE said...


One word (@ co-workers, etc.): SHEEP!

Well, let me add: Bread Buttered SHEEP!

At 9:56 AM, Blogger Faheem said...

I tell you this Bombs... debating this with these fools on the board Noah mentioned in his Friday rant only proves my point. By framing the discussion as I have and not allowing the debate to be about rather or not America is an Imperialistic, Racist and Capitalistic nation and simply referencing the belief of those who are accused of hating America hates as being rooted in these things, I have removed all obfuscation and forced those who disagree with my premise to by default agree that the word Free and Freedoms as used in the phrases they hate “a free America” and they “hate America because of its freedoms” equate these words to Racism, Imperialism and an exploitive Capitalism.

Check it out...

Pay attention to how they continue to try to take the discussion in a different direction and how I bring them right back to the truth.

At 3:25 PM, Blogger The BlackAmericanPrincess said...

PREACH! Tell it like it is!

At 7:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


It is clear that you derive your sense of self from your victimhood. As the others on this blog, you could be free, but you choose the shackles of mental slavery because you think it makes you special. If you were to accept your freedom, then you would just be ordinary – no longer the exalted one, no longer the noble slave. Your extreme arrogance, close minded-ness and ignorance are all the markers of one who believes that historical oppressions give them a special righteousness and access to truth. All identites whom have suffered consider themselves to be the "subject of history" – the victim of all victims – the noble slave. The very structure of your thought has been conditioned and shaped by the ideological hatred's of dead men. The twisted logic of the black essentialist is at root, an attitude of adhesion to the oppressor. Your attitudes have been shaped by the hatred of your perceived oppressor – thus your only vision (and model) of freedom is through retaliatory hatred. This is the existential conundrum of the mentally oppressed. You cannot envision, or construct a sense of self that is external to the master/slave paradigm. Fear of freedom. You confuse retaliatory hatred with resistance – but you are really just maintaining the status quo of intolerance. Your hatred does not pose a threat to the status quo of intolerance, it merely strengthens and nourishes its roots. You are not a defender of freedom, because you cannot envision it as external to hatred – which ultimately is not to envision oneself beyond their only vision of freedom – "the oppressor."

You guys need to become more educated, because the stinking, festering and twisted logic of the slave mentality abounds on this forum.

Does this relate to the subject at hand... Absolutely! If you apply yourself, I think you can think your way through it.


At 8:42 AM, Blogger Faheem said...

Now that is what you call saying a lot without saying anything.

So let me put this together as written by Jules, I am a victim, a mental slave, a noble slave, a Black essentialist, mentally opressed, I am not a defender of freedom, (I am not George Bush in other words), and I am uneducated.

Jules, I am most interested in you espounding on my essentialism, so if you have a moment Jules please break down my essentialism.

As for the rest of what you said, uhhh OK.

At 7:37 AM, Blogger Scott said...

Noah, Faheem,

I would like to invite you to contribute to the discussion on a contract for black America. I have created a wiki (group blog) To allow everyone to contribute to the site.

This is the page on reparations I would think that would be a great place of you guys to start your contribution.

This project was inspired by This meeting of black leaders. A few weeks ago.

At 11:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck yea, I hate all the bull shit that is NOW considered to be "American." It's exactly how Faheem describes, Imperialism - Capitalism-Racism are ALL my ENEMIES!!!

At 11:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck yea, I hate all the bull shit that is NOW considered to be "American." It's exactly how Faheem describes, Imperialism - Capitalism-Racism are ALL my ENEMIES!!!

At 11:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck yea, I hate all the bull shit that is NOW considered to be "American." It's exactly how Faheem describes, Imperialism - Capitalism-Racism are ALL my ENEMIES!!!

At 2:36 AM, Blogger Daniel Belby said...

No country is free to do whatever it likes, it restrains its freedoms in the knowledge and hope that others do the same - that's diplomacy.

As for Arabia hating America... they're some of the most hospitable people there are.

D. Belby,


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